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Sunday, November 01, 2009

I Got (hate) Mail!!!

From a reader of by blog, I presume:

1. Bertrand Russell was not an atheist.
2. Darwin rejected Atheism.
3. Sartre rejected Atheism.
4. David Hume was not an atheist. He saw God's presence in the intricacies of the universe.
5. Einstein believed that Judaism and Christianity possessed the answers to all human problems. 6. Madalyn Murray O'Hair's son, William, became a Christian evangelist.
7. The fathers/mothers of modern atheism were "not-so-moral" people.
8. The greatest social advancements were due to the work of believers, not atheists.
9. The greatest scientists of the past were fervent Christians.
10. Many modern Nobel Prize winning "scientists" believe in God.
11. The Scientific Method was conceived by philosophers and scientists who believed in God.
12. The greatest minds of the past believed in God.
13. Atheists were responsible for more deaths than any other group in history.
14. Sir Anthony Flew was arguably the foremost defender of atheism in modern times -- He is now a believer.
15. Jesus Christ is a proven historical figure and fulfilled all the requirements to be the Messiah.
16. The Bible has withstood the test of time.
17. There are ample explanations for alleged Bible discrepancies.
18. The facts supporting Jesus Christ's resurrection are unassailable.

to expand on these points you can check the website they came from
http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/atheist_secrets.htm

If you go to the link above, you see the same points, but you can click on it to get the "evidence". My response:
Never said they were all atheists. Of course, you are confused on some issues. Some people whom you list were agnostics on philosophical grounds and some did not profess atheism for fear of their lives (such as, Hume, who posthumously published his harshest critiques of religion.) Hume has the Christian destroy Deism and had the deist destroy Christianity --- there is little doubt where he stood. His critique of atheism is so tongue and cheek that is hard to read another way. I'll send you the quotation if you need it.

As for 7, look at Baron D'Holbach. Besides, this is an ad hominem attack. The refuge of those with no real argument.
As for 5, you are wrong. Read Einstein more carefully. The term "God" is often a metaphor with him.
As for 9 - 12, everyone was a Christian in the West once, just as every one once believed the earth was flat. It convinces me of nothing. Besides, the more education on has, especially in the hard sciences, the less religious one tends to be. Damn, you really don't read much do you?
As for 13, you are wrong. Bad atheists exist as do bad Christians. Even if Hitler was an atheist, about which there is some debate, almost all the concentration camp guards and soldiers were Christians. Stalin, the other person Christians pull out of their ass, was probably an atheist. So what? All the Crusaders were Christians. It tells us nothing about Christianity or atheism. Don't be stupid.
As for 14. Flew is not the foremost defender of atheism. And now he is hardly a Christian.
As for 15 and 18, you have clearly not read much on recent scholarship on the historical Jesus. Read Myth of Innocence by Burton Mack.
As for 16 and 17, the Bible is an iron age book, full of barbarism, contradiction, and the most vile morality this world has ever produced. It's not even written particularly well, but I doubt you can read Hebrew and Greek. Therefore, you don't know shit about what you are talking about.

Read some books written by your opponents before you criticize them. Don't rely on a very poorly written websites. It makes you look stupider. Your inaccurate facts are typical of ignorant Christians. Even well-read Christians would be embarrassed by your defense. I am. Go away.

(Or pray that your mighty God smites me. The little fucker has been unable to get me these last 50 years or so, since I became unborn again. I once thought like you, but I had been indoctrinated and as was poorly read and young. I hope the same is true of you.)

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